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Toulouse a classy team. Will take some team to beat them.

@ Torq the ref was good, Counter ref bashing from me.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:56 pm Well both games have ended up with lopsided scores but expect the next 2 to be tight.
I dunno, Exeter could really get blown away.
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TheFrog wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:00 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 pm Dupont, Meafou and Ramos with world class performances today.

I've never rated Bosch at FH but FM he's a huge threat in open play. My favourite non-Fre player, Am, was surprisingly disappointing.
Meafou in blue will be a huge improvement from Willemse.

Ramos is growing in confidence. Jaminet will be second choice as long as Ramos plays at this level.
Agree: Ramos always been a confidence player and at the moment he is playing the best rugby of his life. Rumours are that Jaminet is already on his way out at end of season. Possibly to Toulon.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:03 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:00 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 pm Dupont, Meafou and Ramos with world class performances today.

I've never rated Bosch at FH but FM he's a huge threat in open play. My favourite non-Fre player, Am, was surprisingly disappointing.
Meafou in blue will be a huge improvement from Willemse.

Ramos is growing in confidence. Jaminet will be second choice as long as Ramos plays at this level.
Agree: Ramos always been a confidence player and at the moment he is playing the best rugby of his life. Rumours are that Jaminet is already on his way out at end of season. Possibly to Toulon.
I have never rated Jaminet highly. Amazing athlete but little rugby IQ.

Under the Galthie system, the 15 has to play 10 regularly Nd Ramos is obviously comfortable in that role too.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:02 pm Toulouse a classy team. Will take some team to beat them.

@ Torq the ref was good, Counter ref bashing from me.
Won't have much of a chance away to Leinster: at present they aren't some team but THE team. I'd have Leinster as favourites even if the game was in Toulouse.

Just to repeat great effort and spirit by the Sharks. A game with no real niggle (bar the Ramos try/Van Rensburg tackle) and no slowing the game down. :thumbup:
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TheFrog wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:06 pm I have never rated Jaminet highly. Amazing athlete but little rugby IQ.

Under the Galthie system, the 15 has to play 10 regularly Nd Ramos is obviously comfortable in that role too.
Under Galthie system, 15 has to be a reliable dead ball kicker which Ntamack is not. Dupont is perfectly capable of playing back up 10 if required but yeah, Ramos clearly has the edge over Jaminet there.
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After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Just thinking this is a spacker-fest in comparison so far. Mind you our Lightning isn't running at present anyway :lol:
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"Stretching South African cloth" :wtf

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Two very limited game plans on offer so far
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Kerrist, Toulouse would have run in 100 against the Stormers.
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Pathetic defending.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Good finish for his try mind
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:53 pm Kerrist, Toulouse would have run in 100 against the Stormers.
Ja, Stomps are not exactly looking shit hot.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Sopwith Camel got the job done as I recall, much like Nowell did there :razz:

Watching on my laptop in deepest Gloucestershire, how do people live with wifi this poor? No wonder men from such a beautiful county turn into the gremlins that inhabit the Shed…

Exeter looking much the better from the pixels I’m seeing
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The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:56 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Sopwith Camel got the job done as I recall, much like Nowell did there :razz:

Watching on my laptop in deepest Gloucestershire, how do people live with wifi this poor? No wonder men from such a beautiful county turn into the gremlins that inhabit the Shed…

Exeter looking much the better from the pixels I’m seeing
Camels were highly manoeuvrable :lol:
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FM, this lot are a complete clownshow.
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This is the most dangerous Chiefs have looked all season. Wtf is up with the Stomers?
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Stormers having a mare at the back....

They better wake up quickly from this slumber
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Only listening on Radio but don’t think anyone gets a bye in the latter stages.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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PCPhil wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Only listening on Radio but don’t think anyone gets a bye in the latter stages.
A bye would be a tougher challenge. Anyway, it's Exeter through. How TAF are the Stormers 2nd in the URC? Worst team I've seen anywhere all season. Utterly clueless in every aspect of play.
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At least the $harks waited till they had played 50 minutes before bending over,
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:06 pm
PCPhil wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Only listening on Radio but don’t think anyone gets a bye in the latter stages.
A bye would be a tougher challenge. Anyway, it's Exeter through. How TAF are the Stormers 2nd in the URC? Worst team I've seen anywhere all season. Utterly clueless in every aspect of play.
Worst half from the Stomps in years I reckon.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:11 pm With our injury list Toulouse now clear favorites
Shows some promise but must try harder.
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Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
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_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Exeter have done very little but against farcical play, it's been more than enough.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:17 pm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Exeter have done very little but against farcical play, it's been more than enough.
The Exeter try off the lineout identifying a weakness in the Stomp lineout positioning on defence, was good.

Not a great half for the neutral spectator otherwise.
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_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Commentator also wondered if their long winded journey to the UK may have had an effect
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SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:21 pm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Commentator also wondered if their long winded journey to the UK may have had an effect
That was the other guy and Delport replied to him that the Stomps have been made to work on defence and listed the tackle counts. I don't really buy travel stuff so much, it's much less than in Super Rugby (north/south travel in basically the same time zone, and short tours). If the SA teams and players start talking about travel then I'll take it seriously, but I've seen nothing much from them yet.
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I'm out of this sh*tfest. Will save eyes for later game.
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I thought the South Africans were going to show us all how this tournament should be played?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:06 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:02 pm Toulouse a classy team. Will take some team to beat them.

@ Torq the ref was good, Counter ref bashing from me.
Won't have much of a chance away to Leinster: at present they aren't some team but THE team. I'd have Leinster as favourites even if the game was in Toulouse.

Just to repeat great effort and spirit by the Sharks. A game with no real niggle (bar the Ramos try/Van Rensburg tackle) and no slowing the game down. :thumbup:
Toulouse can definitely beat Leinster. Especially without Sexton. Lowe could be out and Baird almost definitely is while we don't know the extent of VDF's injury.
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Stormer's have woken up a bit over the last 10.
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Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:41 pm I thought the South Africans were going to show us all how this tournament should be played?
Who said that, or is it something you've made up? I didn't think we had any chance at all, there is a financial disadvantage that's so pronounced that we've structured our pro game in the knowledge we lose a lot of the best players at this level. SA sides did a bit better than I expected.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Still a decent player.
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Oh well
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Exeter by far the better team. Stormers played like hard white dog shite. Good luck in the semis Chiefs.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:28 pm Exeter by far the better team. Stormers played like hard white dog shite. Good luck in the semis Chiefs.
:lol:
How does dog sh*te go white? Seriously? Never seen that outside of Africa though.
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