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Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:28 am
by TheFrog
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:26 pm
laurent wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:22 pm Italian ref is mad never a red
Just said the same on the Scottish thread, absolute nonsense
Well, it will teach the young kid a lesson and next time he'll be careful about his tackle technique.

But yeah, there was no head against head contact, and at one point I even thought the TMO was looking at the Scottish player elbowing the French player in the face.

That poor ref had a mare. She was struggling all night. Another highlight was the French shoving the Scottish scrum before introduction and she gave the French the penalty! :lolno:

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:30 am
by TheFrog
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:46 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:43 pm Awww bless. She finally got her chance to dish out another card :thumbup:
As I said before, I think she has been poor but her TMO and rest of the team are really letting her down as well. I really think the TMOs have to shut the fuck up
In fairness, the second red was justified.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:36 am
by TheFrog
Right, back to the Senior's game.

Question mark for France will be how Moefana performs on the wing with little to no experience in this position. And how Penaud whose tackling technique is rather bad will handle short Graham without conceding penalties for high tackles.

I suspect Finn will have his game of the season, motivated by playing his club partner Fickou.

I also think he will test Moefana / Jaminet and turn Moefana back quite a bit so that Moefana will have a challenge in managing his positioning. Then use the wide channel and launch big VDM at him.

Will the Scottish lineout function well? Two new locks and a rather short backrow. This could be an opportunity for France.

I hope France brings the intensity.

Should be a good game. I just hope it won't be frustrating :grin:

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:08 am
by LenCohen
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:55 pm Clueless. Sco ball carrier ran into his own man getting up from the floor. Obstruction.
You wonder at what point having such poor refs becomes a safety issue at this sort of level. I watched a bit of the eng v Wales under 20s and it was weirdly chaotic and frenetic as she was just missing infraction after infraction.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:02 am
by SaintK
LenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:08 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:55 pm Clueless. Sco ball carrier ran into his own man getting up from the floor. Obstruction.
You wonder at what point having such poor refs becomes a safety issue at this sort of level. I watched a bit of the eng v Wales under 20s and it was weirdly chaotic and frenetic as she was just missing infraction after infraction.
I guess it's all part of a greater plan to try and develop more women match officials?

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:22 am
by Torquemada 1420
LenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:08 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:55 pm Clueless. Sco ball carrier ran into his own man getting up from the floor. Obstruction.
You wonder at what point having such poor refs becomes a safety issue at this sort of level. I watched a bit of the eng v Wales under 20s and it was weirdly chaotic and frenetic as she was just missing infraction after infraction.
Did you have the blonde Scottish ref? if so, she was ****ing useless in Ire v Fra game. :?:

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:23 am
by Torquemada 1420
SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:02 am
LenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:08 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:55 pm Clueless. Sco ball carrier ran into his own man getting up from the floor. Obstruction.
You wonder at what point having such poor refs becomes a safety issue at this sort of level. I watched a bit of the eng v Wales under 20s and it was weirdly chaotic and frenetic as she was just missing infraction after infraction.
I guess it's all part of a greater plan to try and develop more women match officials?
No issue with women officials. The Fre one was superb last week. But jamming in women just for the sake of making up quotas is bollox and double jeopardy when it was this Italian. There are no Ita refs on the intl panel male or female and this tokenism just resulted in a clown show.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:37 am
by Lobby
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:22 am
LenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:08 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:55 pm Clueless. Sco ball carrier ran into his own man getting up from the floor. Obstruction.
You wonder at what point having such poor refs becomes a safety issue at this sort of level. I watched a bit of the eng v Wales under 20s and it was weirdly chaotic and frenetic as she was just missing infraction after infraction.
Did you have the blonde Scottish ref? if so, she was ****ing useless in Ire v Fra game. :?:
The ref in the England V Wales match was Joy Neville, one of the most experienced Women referees (she reffed the Womens World Cup final in 2017 and was named Rugby Referee of the year in the same year).

The reason all the under 20 games have teams of women refs officiating is to give them additional experience and exposure in advance of the Womens World Cup later this year.

I agree that the French ref, Aurélie Groizeleau, who was in charge for Italy V England, has been far and away the most impressive so far.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:43 pm
by Paddington Bear
On balance pro Scotland.

Looking forward to this one!

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:19 pm
by Big D
Kick is never on there. That has to be a crash ball to Tuipolotu

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:21 pm
by Big D
I honestly don't know why we went for the scrum.in the first place. Muddled thinking imo.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:22 pm
by Big D
Honestly to fuck. A 9 on a switch into traffic. Brilliant.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:24 pm
by Big D
Pathetic.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:25 pm
by Hal Jordan
Those blue shorts on the French kit are fundamentally wrong.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:27 pm
by salanya
Oh dear Scotland.

First trying to globetrotter out of their own 22, then waiting for others to make the tackle on Dupont, until the French have lined up ready to run over the line.

Could be a long match.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:31 pm
by sockwithaticket
Baille is such a good player. France are looking scary.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:32 pm
by I like neeps
Scotland starting slowly again is it. I wonder why?

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:36 pm
by Big D
Tupolotu, classic flat track bully with an incredibly limited skill set. Ball had to go to VdM.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:41 pm
by Big D
Ref letting France away with murder at the line out. That's two they've held the lifter for a long time.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm
by I like neeps
What a total clown Dickson is.

Penalty France for contact in the air.
Hey France I'm warning you for your penalty offence of holding players in the air.

Absolutely embarrassing for a professional referee.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm
by Big D
Neither Scottish centre capable of putting a pass in. Terrific.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:43 pm
by GogLais
Big D wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:41 pm Ref letting France away with murder at the line out. That's two they've held the lifter for a long time.
And he's warned them for doing it but still given the penalty.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:43 pm
by Big D
That's a red card. He's not looking at the ball.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:44 pm
by PCPhil
Never change France… :roll:

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:44 pm
by I like neeps
Dickson is a total embarrassment.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:45 pm
by PCPhil
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:44 pm Dickson is a total embarrassment.
Thought at end the ‘team’ of refs got it right?

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:46 pm
by salanya
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:44 pm Dickson is a total embarrassment.
In fairness, the touch judge and TMO weren't very quick to point to it either.

Very blatant though.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:46 pm
by I like neeps
Penalty for a high tackle on the line and no carton jeune?

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:48 pm
by salanya
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:46 pm Penalty for a high tackle on the line and no carton jeune?
jaune?

TMO had to wake the ref up again.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:48 pm
by Big D
Nice quick feet by Darge to change line.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:50 pm
by I like neeps
Darge is just so good.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:52 pm
by Big D
That's terrific from Darge.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
by sockwithaticket
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm What a total clown Dickson is.

Penalty France for contact in the air.
Hey France I'm warning you for your penalty offence of holding players in the air.

Absolutely embarrassing for a professional referee.
I'd say part of the reason Woki was left up was Gilchrist being interfering with his being let down.

The ref can penalise that while also warning France that they need to bring their man down quicker. It's hardly the first time a ref has warned a team for doing something that's on the border of being an offence while giving a sanction for a definite offence.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
by I like neeps
Thirty minutes and three turnovers for Darge and one try.

As I said pre tournament he's playing better than Watson.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
by I like neeps
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm What a total clown Dickson is.

Penalty France for contact in the air.
Hey France I'm warning you for your penalty offence of holding players in the air.

Absolutely embarrassing for a professional referee.
I'd say part of the reason Woki was left up was Gilchrist being interfering with his being let down.

The ref can penalise that while also warning France that they need to bring their man down quicker. It's hardly the first time a ref has warned a team for doing something that's on the border of being an offence while giving a sanction for a definite offence.
Very generous reading of events.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:55 pm
by PCPhil
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm What a total clown Dickson is.

Penalty France for contact in the air.
Hey France I'm warning you for your penalty offence of holding players in the air.

Absolutely embarrassing for a professional referee.
I'd say part of the reason Woki was left up was Gilchrist being interfering with his being let down.

The ref can penalise that while also warning France that they need to bring their man down quicker. It's hardly the first time a ref has warned a team for doing something that's on the border of being an offence while giving a sanction for a definite offence.
Very generous reading of events.
We’re a civilised lot over here.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:55 pm
by Lemoentjie
Why does the referee keep calling every handling error knock-on? Lots of them have gone back

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:57 pm
by sockwithaticket
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm What a total clown Dickson is.

Penalty France for contact in the air.
Hey France I'm warning you for your penalty offence of holding players in the air.

Absolutely embarrassing for a professional referee.
I'd say part of the reason Woki was left up was Gilchrist being interfering with his being let down.

The ref can penalise that while also warning France that they need to bring their man down quicker. It's hardly the first time a ref has warned a team for doing something that's on the border of being an offence while giving a sanction for a definite offence.
Very generous reading of events.
Or the reading of someone without tartan specs on.

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:57 pm
by Big D
Fuck sake Haining. That's terrible even if VdM could held his line it was a terrible pass

Re: Ye Auld Alliance Derby

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:58 pm
by GogLais
Lemoentjie wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:55 pm Why does the referee keep calling every handling error knock-on? Lots of them have gone back
I thought that of the Jaminet one.