Nienaber to Leinster

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Ha ha! What a win. Boks get rid of a limited coach and Leinster gets saddled with a lemon.

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Not very happy about this at all.

Fucking Van Graan 2.0
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PornDog wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:51 pm Not very happy about this at all.

Fucking Van Graan 2.0
Absolutely.
I'd kill for a coach like Leo Cullen at the Boks or Sharks.
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Maybe he'll take his daddy with him. Rassie to Leinster too. :grin:
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All the teams he's been part of have had a very strong defence. That doesn't happen without a skillset that includes strong video analysis and being able to communicate that to the players/coach it. He's way better than Van Graan.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:52 pm
PornDog wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:51 pm Not very happy about this at all.

Fucking Van Graan 2.0
Absolutely.
I'd kill for a coach like Leo Cullen at the Boks or Sharks.
He's not really a coach, more of a DOR/manager.
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With Nienaber going and Rassie staying I am a bit confuse here. They will be a big loss for the Springboks. What will happen if the Boks retain the WC?

No more box kicking and more attacking rugby?
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:42 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:13 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:52 pm
Absolutely.
I'd kill for a coach like Leo Cullen at the Boks or Sharks.
He's not really a coach, more of a DOR/manager.
That's a total myth. He is the boss and coaches plenty.
Nienaber and Rassie biggest asset is detail. To be successful in South Africa you have to play the politics right. The best thing Rassie did was to appoint Kolisi as captain.

If they go I'd like to see Dobson getting the job. He has been excellent with the Stormers. Rassie appoint him at WP.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:41 pm Ha ha! What a win. Boks get rid of a limited coach and Leinster gets saddled with a lemon.

Exactly.....no Rassie to hold the Physiotherapist's hands.

He should be removed from the Boks immedialtely.....Surely a conflict of interest prior to the RWC , and how motivated will he be to do anything less or more than he actually does do....
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:17 pm
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:42 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:13 pm

He's not really a coach, more of a DOR/manager.
That's a total myth. He is the boss and coaches plenty.
Nienaber and Rassie biggest asset is detail. To be successful in South Africa you have to play the politics right. The best thing Rassie did was to appoint Kolisi as captain.

If they go I'd like to see Dobson getting the job. He has been excellent with the Stormers. Rassie appoint him at WP.
Dobbo is falling apart currently. Failing at the URC , Champions Cup and Currie Cup. Libbok was struggling...what does Dobbo do.......call on Willemse to take the kicks........nooooooooooo.....leaves Manie to hang dry and have the majority of WP calling for Manies head......as well as the loss in confidence
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Good for Nienaber to emancipate from Rassie but what a strange move by Leinster.
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Sards wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:34 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:17 pm
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:42 pm

That's a total myth. He is the boss and coaches plenty.
Nienaber and Rassie biggest asset is detail. To be successful in South Africa you have to play the politics right. The best thing Rassie did was to appoint Kolisi as captain.

If they go I'd like to see Dobson getting the job. He has been excellent with the Stormers. Rassie appoint him at WP.
Dobbo is falling apart currently. Failing at the URC , Champions Cup and Currie Cup. Libbok was struggling...what does Dobbo do.......call on Willemse to take the kicks........nooooooooooo.....leaves Manie to hang dry and have the majority of WP calling for Manies head......as well as the loss in confidence
Nee Boet, Manie is a confident player. Moving him to the bench or 15 was the $hark$ & Bulls option and look where he end up. Libbok must get his gat in rat and produce like we jnow he can. He disappoint the last three losses.
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Excellent defense coach.
Not sure about his actual coaching abilities.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:43 pm Excellent....... coach.
Not sure about his actual coaching abilities.
Hmmmm.

Are people a bit confused about the Leinster setup? Leo Cullen is the head guy surrounded by different coaches with different responsibilities. Nienaber will be the most senior coach below Cullen but not in charge of Leinster overall.
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CM11 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:56 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:43 pm Excellent....... coach.
Not sure about his actual coaching abilities.
Hmmmm.

Are people a bit confused about the Leinster setup? Leo Cullen is the head guy surrounded by different coaches with different responsibilities. Nienaber will be the most senior coach below Cullen but not in charge of Leinster overall.
Nothing like a bit of selective editing.
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Well it's confusing. Is defensive coaching not 'actual' coaching?
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CM11 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:02 pm Well it's confusing. Is defensive coaching not 'actual' coaching?
Saffas are confusing that's why we have to employ Welshmen to communicate with others on our behalf.

I think he meant he's not too good as a head coach but great as an assistant.
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average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:55 am
CM11 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:02 pm Well it's confusing. Is defensive coaching not 'actual' coaching?
Saffas are confusing that's why we have to employ Welshmen to communicate with others on our behalf.

I think he meant he's not too good as a head coach but great as an assistant.
Well he's not going to be head coach at Leinster so all good there.

Funnily enough, his title is head coach for SA, isn't it?
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Matfield linking Van Graan with the Springboks :lol: :crazy:
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Matfield have blue balls. :think:

There can only be one Bok coach and that is John Dobson. He have the best track record coming through the ranks.

If its Stick or Davids, we are going to be in deep kak. They never coach on URC / S100 level.
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It's going to be wanky Stick or Davids.
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CM11 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:02 am
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:55 am
CM11 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:02 pm Well it's confusing. Is defensive coaching not 'actual' coaching?
Saffas are confusing that's why we have to employ Welshmen to communicate with others on our behalf.

I think he meant he's not too good as a head coach but great as an assistant.
Well he's not going to be head coach at Leinster so all good there.

Funnily enough, his title is head coach for SA, isn't it?
Under the supreme guidance of pappa Rassie yes.
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average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:48 am It's going to be wanky Stick or Davids.
Davids couldnt coach Boland
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:00 am
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:48 am It's going to be wanky Stick or Davids.
Davids couldnt coach Boland
SARU praising him for his time with the Kings.
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average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:01 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:00 am
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:48 am It's going to be wanky Stick or Davids.
Davids couldnt coach Boland
SARU praising him for his time with the Kings.
:lol: we are in for a rough 4 years. Our rugby going the cricket route.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:15 pm
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:01 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:00 am

Davids couldnt coach Boland
SARU praising him for his time with the Kings.
:lol: we are in for a rough 4 years. Our rugby going the cricket route.
Everything in South African society is affected by our politics. Politicians have broken everything in this country, why would sport be any different?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:26 am Matfield have blue balls. :think:

There can only be one Bok coach and that is John Dobson. He have the best track record coming through the ranks.

If its Stick or Davids, we are going to be in deep kak. They never coach on URC / S100 level.
Dobson has done very well. Recently it's shown tho that he still has a lot to learn. He takes too much on himself in his enthusiasm. Maybe with more of a team
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average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:15 pm
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:01 pm
SARU praising him for his time with the Kings.
:lol: we are in for a rough 4 years. Our rugby going the cricket route.
Everything in South African society is affected by our politics. Politicians have broken everything in this country, why would sport be any different?
It really is becoming depressing. Vok but loadshedding is 💪 me over
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average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:15 pm
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:01 pm
SARU praising him for his time with the Kings.
:lol: we are in for a rough 4 years. Our rugby going the cricket route.
Everything in South African society is affected by our politics. Politicians have broken everything in this country, why would sport be any different?
Dobson know everything about politics, make no mistake.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:16 pm
average joe wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:15 pm

:lol: we are in for a rough 4 years. Our rugby going the cricket route.
Everything in South African society is affected by our politics. Politicians have broken everything in this country, why would sport be any different?
Dobson know everything about politics, make no mistake.
He is the polar opposite of Nienaber.
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